This all started with an innocent noob question on #oyasumi-subs on Rizon, and resulted in one of the greatest examples of stupidity known to men. Yes, the logs are huge, and the truly funny part is at the end. However, not reading the rest of logs will make the last bit seem unbeliveable... but after witnessing all his stupidity, the last part is only natural. Have fun. Compiled by ArchMage ZeratuL (the logs are untouched apart from join/part/quit lines being removed) 08:32:35 <[Mathew|Simpsons]> What is mkv? 08:32:43 <+Tsukasa`> a container format 08:32:46 <[Mathew|Simpsons]> I don't think my dvd player can play that 08:32:55 <[Mathew|Simpsons]> Is it like vob? 08:32:57 <+ArchMageZeratuL> no 08:32:59 <+ArchMageZeratuL> it's like avi 08:32:59 <+Tsukasa`> no 08:33:00 <+ArchMageZeratuL> but better. 08:33:03 <+Tsukasa`> yeah 08:33:13 <+Tsukasa`> it can contain several audio tracks, subtitles and other data 08:33:19 <+ArchMageZeratuL> avi can do that too, actually. 08:33:24 <+Tsukasa`> yeah 08:33:26 <[Mathew|Simpsons]> That is like ogm 08:33:35 <+ArchMageZeratuL> it's way better than ogm :P 08:33:39 <+ArchMageZeratuL> http://www.kickassanime.org/wiki/index.php?title=Matroska 08:33:45 <+ArchMageZeratuL> read that. 08:33:55 <[Mathew|Simpsons]> So it's like vob 08:34:09 * [Mathew|Simpsons] is now known as [mathew] 08:34:37 <[mathew]> Creed Diskence is soooo cool :D 08:35:04 <+ArchMageZeratuL> no... it's not like vob... 08:35:17 <[mathew]> Why not? 08:36:09 <+ArchMageZeratuL> I'll make the answer simple and say that vob is basically a very simple container for mpeg2 08:36:11 <[mathew]> Vob can contain several audio tracks, subtitles and other data aswell 08:36:19 <+ArchMageZeratuL> so? 08:36:20 <+ArchMageZeratuL> avi can, too 08:36:37 <[mathew]> So.. 08:36:49 <[mathew]> They are similar 08:37:01 <+ArchMageZeratuL> they are all containers (though vob is a very specific one) 08:37:46 <[mathew]> What do you mean by specific..? 08:38:10 <[mathew]> Anyway the normal dvd player can't play mkv.. 08:38:48 <+ArchMageZeratuL> right, it can't. 08:39:33 <[mathew]> How tight is mkv compression (Size of file) 08:39:42 <[mathew]> At minimal 08:39:59 <+ArchMageZeratuL> mkv is a container 08:40:01 <+ArchMageZeratuL> not a codec. 08:40:34 <[mathew]> Ohh 08:40:50 <[mathew]> I need to learn more!! ._. 08:42:26 <[mathew]> I haven't come across an avi file that has multiple audio tracks, subtitle tracks or video.. 08:42:35 <[mathew]> Only ogm 08:42:43 almost everyone uses ogm and mkv at these days 08:42:57 <[mathew]> I guess they're better 08:43:02 <+ArchMageZeratuL> mkv is 08:43:04 <+ArchMageZeratuL> ogm is arguable :P 08:43:19 mkv is the best i think 08:43:19 <[mathew]> Why is mkv better than ogm? 08:43:25 <+Tsukasa`> some people cling to ogm with the argument mkv has too much of a overhead 08:43:33 <[mathew]> I have Rurouni Kenshin on ogm 08:43:38 rofl 08:43:40 <[mathew]> Overhead? 08:43:41 <+ArchMageZeratuL> ogm has too much overhead, horrible specs, is undocumented and the splitters are buggy 08:43:46 I'm watching ruroni kenshin right now :D 08:43:48 <+ArchMageZeratuL> uh 08:43:48 the reminesence 08:43:53 <[mathew]> Cool :D 08:43:54 <+ArchMageZeratuL> Tsukasa`, mkv has less overhead than avi 08:43:58 <+ArchMageZeratuL> and avi has way less overhead than ogm 08:44:03 <[mathew]> What's overhead??????? 08:44:09 <+ArchMageZeratuL> remux and ogm yourself and see the results :) 08:44:11 <+ArchMageZeratuL> *an 08:44:13 <+Tsukasa`> ArchMageZeratuL: Yeah, but it's the argument some people defend ogm with 08:44:14 i secnd that question 08:44:22 <+ArchMageZeratuL> well... it's a totally void argument -_- 08:44:22 what is overhead? :) 08:44:24 <+ArchMageZeratuL> CALM DOWN 08:44:26 <+ArchMageZeratuL> I'm getting there 08:44:33 <@Twistey> 06»»13 WinAmp 06::13Title: Bastard 06::13 Artist: Dope 06::13Album: American Apathy 06::13 01:24 / 03:28 06::13 (80/1827) 06::13 210 kbps 06««13 08:44:34 <+Tsukasa`> besides I like the new mkv menu options ^^ 08:44:42 <+ArchMageZeratuL> overhead is other data stored in container (aside from audio/video/subs/etc tracks) 08:44:49 <+ArchMageZeratuL> such as index files and etc 08:44:52 <[mathew]> An example please? 08:44:54 i see 08:44:56 <+ArchMageZeratuL> which take up a relatively minor space in file 08:45:05 <[mathew]> Oh like chapters? 08:45:09 <+ArchMageZeratuL> no 08:45:27 <[mathew]> Then what are index files? 08:45:40 <+ArchMageZeratuL> It's something technical that you don't need to worry about :P 08:45:50 <+ArchMageZeratuL> suffices to say that it's something necessary to make file useable 08:45:51 <[mathew]> Screw you 08:46:22 thanks for the info :) 08:47:01 <[mathew]> dwawd33few what's an index file? 08:47:09 no clue :) 08:47:17 not that i care that much 08:47:40 <+ArchMageZeratuL> http://www-user.tu-chemnitz.de/~noe/Video-Zeug/AVIMux%20GUI/en_overhead_comparison.html <- here's a page showing how mkv has the lowest overhead 0,408:47:50 • Joins: 4 Arbiter [14My@Connection.Was.Reset.By.A.Little.Mexican.Man.With.Wire.Cutters4] 08:48:26 <+ArchMageZeratuL> OGM is just laughable... 25 MB vs MKV's 2.7 MB in Movie 3 08:49:11 <[mathew]> .. 08:49:18 <[mathew]> Which is better quality though? 08:49:41 <+ArchMageZeratuL> this is all for identical files 08:49:44 <+Tsukasa`> that is not related to the container format 08:50:24 talking about mkv, i'm gonna rewatch all 9 eps of Pani Poni Dash in my wait of ep 10...lol 08:50:43 <@Twistey> 10 will come maybe today 08:50:45 <@Twistey> ;p 08:50:52 cool 08:51:14 the new intro song is my new favorite song since a few days or so ^^ 08:51:24 <[mathew]> Thanks for your help Twistey 08:52:24 <[mathew]> So if mkv is sooo good why is avi still the most popular container for anime? 08:52:34 cause of compatibility i guess 08:52:45 <+ArchMageZeratuL> there are three main reasons 0,408:52:48 • Joins: 4 derwersei [14d@Rizon-2162B267.dip.t-dialin.net4] 08:52:55 <+ArchMageZeratuL> The first is that mkv won't work on any hardware player that I know of 08:53:19 <+ArchMageZeratuL> The second is that leechers get scared by mkv, as it requires a directshow filter to play (e.g. Haali Media splitter in CCCP) 08:53:33 ffdshow works well for me :) 08:53:43 <+ArchMageZeratuL> The third is that most fansubbing encoders aren't too technically experienced, so they don't really know about the advantages 08:53:53 <+ArchMageZeratuL> ffdshow can't split mkv :P 08:54:03 <[mathew]> Are you calling Jagobah inexperienced? 08:54:09 <[mathew]> Because he uses avi 08:54:10 <+ArchMageZeratuL> no 08:54:16 <+ArchMageZeratuL> I would use avi in his place, too 08:54:20 <+ArchMageZeratuL> for the first two reasons 08:54:22 <+ArchMageZeratuL> in particular, for second 08:54:36 <+ArchMageZeratuL> however, for a DVD-rip, using anything other than Matroska is criminal 08:54:39 <[mathew]> Why do leechers get scared? 08:54:46 okay, sorry, i was using matroska splitter i guess :) 08:55:03 <+ArchMageZeratuL> because it doesn't play on their computers "out of the box", I guess :P 08:55:05 <+Tsukasa`> I think some groups are afraid that people steal their scripts aswell 08:55:11 <[mathew]> Omg someone please give me a guide on starting all of this encoding stuff.. I don't even know what a splitter is 08:55:13 too bad that only bsplayer can handle mkv for me properly 08:55:13 <+Tsukasa`> if it's softsubbed 08:55:17 <+ArchMageZeratuL> Tsukasa`: nothing stops you from hardsubbing in mkv -_- 08:55:21 <+ArchMageZeratuL> besides, you can steal hardsubs 08:55:26 <+ArchMageZeratuL> with Optical Character Recognition 08:55:27 <+Tsukasa`> yeah 08:55:32 <+Tsukasa`> but it's harder 08:55:41 <+ArchMageZeratuL> yes 08:55:51 <+ArchMageZeratuL> dwawd33few: bsplayer is a very buggy player 08:55:57 <[mathew]> Why do leechers get scared by mkv..? 08:56:04 i was using media player classic 08:56:05 <+ArchMageZeratuL> Media Player Classic (NOT Windows Media Player) and Zoom Player are recommended instead 08:56:13 <[mathew]> And what is a hardware player? 08:56:21 <+ArchMageZeratuL> hardware player = like a DVD player :P 08:56:25 but it puts my processor usage to 100% 08:56:30 <+ArchMageZeratuL> and I already answered other question 08:56:31 and i can't figure out why 08:56:34 <[mathew]> Why'd you call it a hardware player? 08:56:51 <+ArchMageZeratuL> it is probably set to VMR 7 output instead of Overlay Mixer 08:57:08 with overlay, i can not see subtitles .) 08:57:09 .) 08:57:10 :) 08:57:11 <+ArchMageZeratuL> [mathew]: because there are software dvd players, and not all hardware players are dvd players (e.g. Blu-Ray players :P) 08:57:13 hehe, third time 08:57:21 <+ArchMageZeratuL> you can with Overlay Mixer and VSFilter installed 08:57:39 i see 08:57:46 <[mathew]> There's no such thing as a hardware player 08:57:51 i might try to uninstall everything and install CCCP 08:58:03 <[mathew]> ._. 08:58:04 but in the past, two codec packs totally messed up my system 08:58:12 nimo and ace i think 08:58:14 <+ArchMageZeratuL> [mathew]: do you have a point? 08:58:21 <+ArchMageZeratuL> stricly speaking, all players are both hardware and software 08:58:27 <+ArchMageZeratuL> it's just that these in question are CALLED hardware players 08:58:44 <[mathew]> No they're not :P 08:58:46 <+ArchMageZeratuL> I have a theory, that nimo and ace are DESIGNED to screw your system 08:59:03 hehe... 08:59:09 <+ArchMageZeratuL> they install every sort of completelly broken directshow filter 08:59:21 <+ArchMageZeratuL> including gabest avi splitter and morgan stream switcher 08:59:55 <[mathew]> How can I get a list of codecs on my computer? 09:00:00 <@Twistey> relax babies 09:00:16 oh what the heck, lets give a try to cc 09:00:17 cp 09:00:32 <+ArchMageZeratuL> dwawd33few: before installing CCCP, get rid of every codec on system 09:00:39 thats what i will do now 09:00:44 uninstall every player and codec 09:00:51 <+ArchMageZeratuL> CCCP is known to work on a clean system... but if there's something there to conflict 09:00:57 <+ArchMageZeratuL> Zoom Player can list everything installed on system 09:01:07 <[mathew]> Where do I download that? 09:01:09 <+ArchMageZeratuL> and CCCPi is a little program designed to detect other codec packs on machine 09:01:17 <+ArchMageZeratuL> download what? 09:01:26 <[mathew]> Zoom player 09:01:26 i see 09:01:30 <[mathew]> And CCCPi 09:01:32 <+ArchMageZeratuL> google for it 09:01:38 <+ArchMageZeratuL> cccp and cccpi are on http://cccp.kickassanime.org 09:02:01 <[mathew]> Zoom Player.. Is that a video player? 09:02:05 <+ArchMageZeratuL> ..yes 09:02:33 <[mathew]> And it can list codecs on your system? 09:02:40 <+ArchMageZeratuL> yes. 09:02:47 <+ArchMageZeratuL> but why you want to do that is beyond me 09:03:03 <[mathew]> ._. 09:03:12 <[mathew]> I got a virus from downloading a codec 09:03:27 <+ArchMageZeratuL> and? 09:03:45 <[mathew]> How do you delete codecs? 09:04:04 <+ArchMageZeratuL> with its uninstaller 09:04:05 <+ArchMageZeratuL> well 09:04:10 regsvr32 /u codecname.ext 09:04:11 <+ArchMageZeratuL> Zoom also allows you to unregister the codecs 09:04:23 <@Twistey> Initiating Fserv Autovoice. 09:04:23 <@Twistey> !list 09:04:25 <+ArchMageZeratuL> yes, that works too, if you know the filename 09:05:02 where can it list the codecs in my system? (zoomplayer) 09:05:03 <[mathew]> Can CCCPi delete codecs? 09:05:10 i want to make sure i removed evertyhing 09:05:12 <+ArchMageZeratuL> mathew, no 09:05:24 * Twistey sets mode: +v Mars 09:05:29 <+ArchMageZeratuL> dwawd33few: actually, don't remove EVERYTHING, in particular, don't delete system ones 09:05:44 <+ArchMageZeratuL> but it's on "Filter Management"... last tab. I think you need to enable advanced options 09:05:51 <+ArchMageZeratuL> it's not recommended that you mess with that 09:05:56 <+ArchMageZeratuL> install CCCP first and see if everything works 09:06:03 <+ArchMageZeratuL> if it does, great 09:06:22 well, i have two versions of directvobsub for example 09:06:23 <+ArchMageZeratuL> you just remove everything that has an uninstaller 09:06:52 <[mathew]> What's mpeg-1? 09:06:54 <+ArchMageZeratuL> quoting the CCCP Troubleshooting page: 09:06:54 <+ArchMageZeratuL> This should only be done when everything else fails. DO NOT TRY THIS AT HOME, CHILDREN! Not unless a #CCCP staff member directly tells you so, at least. 09:06:54 <+ArchMageZeratuL> ZoomPlayer is required to do this. The process can make a Windows reinstall necessary or unneeded depending on how lucky you are. 09:07:09 <+ArchMageZeratuL> [mathew]: a video codec 09:07:19 <+ArchMageZeratuL> one that you SHOULDN'T uninstall. 09:07:22 <[mathew]> What type? 09:07:24 <+ArchMageZeratuL> ... 09:07:29 <+ArchMageZeratuL> what do you mean, "what type"? 09:07:30 <[mathew]> mpeg-2 is dvd 09:07:37 <+ArchMageZeratuL> mpeg-1 is video CD 09:07:45 <[mathew]> Oh 09:07:47 <[mathew]> vcd 09:07:49 <[mathew]> That sucks 09:07:51 <+ArchMageZeratuL> but it's also used for other videos 09:07:54 <[mathew]> What's mpeg-3? 09:07:59 <+ArchMageZeratuL> there is no mpeg-3. 09:08:02 <[mathew]> k 09:08:09 <[mathew]> Is there going to be one? 09:08:13 <+ArchMageZeratuL> there is mpeg-4. 09:08:16 so you mean i should not remove mpeg layer 3 support? oups 09:08:18 j/k :P: 09:08:21 <[mathew]> What happened to 3?? 09:08:22 <+ArchMageZeratuL> which is xvid, divx, wmv9 and h.264 09:08:27 <+ArchMageZeratuL> no idea. 09:08:32 <+ArchMageZeratuL> haha dwawd33few 09:08:37 anyways, time to restart my system 09:08:45 <[mathew]> What's h.254 09:09:04 <[mathew]> Mpeg-2 is better than mpeg-4 09:09:08 <+ArchMageZeratuL> MPEG-4 Part 10, aka AVC (Advanced Video Coding), the most advanced video codec in widespread use 09:09:12 <+ArchMageZeratuL> no 09:09:13 <+ArchMageZeratuL> it's not. 09:09:21 <[mathew]> Yes it is 09:09:25 <+ArchMageZeratuL> no, it's not. 09:09:29 <[mathew]> I mean for quality 09:09:31 <+ArchMageZeratuL> Negative. 09:09:36 <[mathew]> Yeah it has better quality 09:09:43 <+ArchMageZeratuL> You have no idea what you're talking about. 09:09:43 <[mathew]> Yes!! 09:09:48 <[mathew]> Oh 09:09:53 <+ArchMageZeratuL> You're just randomly guessing stuff 09:09:54 <[mathew]> Well then explain.. 09:10:09 <[mathew]> Omg well atleast explain 09:10:16 <[mathew]> ._.. 09:10:17 <+ArchMageZeratuL> explain what? h.264 > XviD > mpeg-2 09:10:24 <[mathew]> Yeh 09:10:38 <+ArchMageZeratuL> for the same quality, h.264 yields WAY smaller file sizes 09:10:44 <+ArchMageZeratuL> and h.264 can reach qualities which are impossible for mpeg-2 09:11:05 <[mathew]> Howcome dvd files use mpeg-2 then 09:11:09 <+ArchMageZeratuL> DVDs are OLD 09:11:10 <[mathew]> Why don't they use h.264? 09:11:10 <+ArchMageZeratuL> that's why 09:11:16 <[mathew]> WHat uses h.264 09:11:24 <+ArchMageZeratuL> the new Blu-Ray and HD-DVD discs, which will start replacing DVDs next year, use h.264 09:11:35 <[mathew]> Sounds high tech 09:11:53 <[mathew]> Is h.264 being used to compress avi files? 09:12:00 <+ArchMageZeratuL> unfortunately 09:12:10 <[mathew]> Why do you say unfortunately? 09:12:22 <+ArchMageZeratuL> because h.264 is not natively compatible with AVI 09:12:29 <+ArchMageZeratuL> so it requires a nonstandard hack to work 09:12:54 <[mathew]> A nonstandard hack? 09:12:56 <+ArchMageZeratuL> It works well inside mkv or mp4, though 09:12:58 <+ArchMageZeratuL> yes, a nonstandard hack. 09:13:07 <[mathew]> Meaning? 09:13:31 <+ArchMageZeratuL> Are you a programmer? 09:13:43 <[mathew]> No .-. 09:13:59 <+ArchMageZeratuL> So why do you want me to dump highly technical gibberish on you? 09:14:10 <[mathew]> Why do you think? 09:15:01 <[mathew]> Where do you get the h.264 codec? 09:15:05 <+ArchMageZeratuL> oh, okay, fine, it's because h.264 supports up to 32 bidirectional reference frames, which require reordering of stream in order to conform to vfw's sequential frame decoding architeture 09:15:10 <+ArchMageZeratuL> in CCCP. 09:15:59 <[mathew]> Um... 09:16:09 <[mathew]> Can a normal video player play h.264 09:16:21 <+ArchMageZeratuL> only HD-DVD and Blu-Ray ones 09:16:40 <+ArchMageZeratuL> oh 09:16:41 <[mathew]> I mean software 09:16:43 <+ArchMageZeratuL> you mean a software player 09:16:47 <[mathew]> Yes 09:16:52 <+ArchMageZeratuL> right, any directshow player can once you have CCCP installed. 09:17:05 <[mathew]> Cool 09:17:27 h.254 hentai is kool 09:17:30 <[mathew]> What codec does Jagobah use to encode "black cat" 09:17:43 <+ArchMageZeratuL> xvid. 09:17:45 <[mathew]> hentai ._. 09:18:22 <[mathew]> So h.264's quality is better than dvd's and is smaller? 09:18:39 <+ArchMageZeratuL> Given the same source, yes 09:18:48 <[mathew]> So that means that an avi file can be better than a vob???? 09:18:53 <+ArchMageZeratuL> sigh 09:18:59 <+ArchMageZeratuL> time to pull out my screenshots of School Rumble 09:19:02 <[mathew]> Oh man I would like to see that 09:19:05 <[mathew]> Ok 09:19:48 <[mathew]> Get out those screen shots then ;P 09:19:55 <+ArchMageZeratuL> http://images.cellosoft.com/zeratul/article_qc/srdvd_filter_00.jpg 09:20:00 <+ArchMageZeratuL> This is what the School Rumble DVD looks like 09:20:04 <+ArchMageZeratuL> take a careful look at it. 09:20:21 <+ArchMageZeratuL> http://images.cellosoft.com/zeratul/article_qc/srdvd_filter_02.jpg this is what my XviD encode of it looks like 09:20:49 <[mathew]> And you say XviD is better? 09:20:57 <+ArchMageZeratuL> clearly. 09:21:20 <[mathew]> Wow I always thought DVD was the best ._. 09:21:25 <[mathew]> I am a fucking noob ._. 09:22:35 <@Twistey> the colors of the dvd are better but also its too blurry 09:23:07 <[mathew]> The colour's the same 09:23:09 <+ArchMageZeratuL> 'better'? 09:23:13 <+ArchMageZeratuL> no, they're slightly different 09:23:13 <[mathew]> Well, in my opinion 09:23:20 <+ArchMageZeratuL> DVD is slightly less saturated and a bit brighter 09:23:28 <+ArchMageZeratuL> It's a matter of taste more than anything, though 09:23:40 <[mathew]> Oh yeh I see it 09:23:46 <[mathew]> XviD is darker At this point, it gets interesting. He accidently says "go to hell bitch" to an operator, and then BEGS for forgiveness. 09:24:06 <@Twistey> that took you long ... 09:24:06 <+ArchMageZeratuL> that's not related to DVD or XviD, though 09:24:14 <[mathew]> Go to hell bitch 09:24:16 <[mathew]> Oh wait 09:24:17 <[mathew]> Sorry 09:24:18 <[mathew]> Sorry -. 09:24:20 <[mathew]> -.- 09:24:20 <+ArchMageZeratuL> ... 09:24:21 <[mathew]> ._. 09:24:22 <+ArchMageZeratuL> ok 09:24:26 <+ArchMageZeratuL> so yelling at people is OK 09:24:29 <[mathew]> Hello op :D 09:24:29 <+ArchMageZeratuL> but yelling at operators isn't? 09:24:34 <[mathew]> ........ 09:24:38 <[mathew]> -.- 09:24:39 <[mathew]> -.- 09:24:56 <[mathew]> ArchMage, pleeeeeease 09:25:05 <@Twistey> what shall i do 09:25:07 <@Twistey> a timeban 09:25:10 <@Twistey> or a regular ban 09:25:12 <[mathew]> I am sorry Twistey!? 09:25:13 <[mathew]> Please! 09:25:16 <[mathew]> I won't do it again! 09:25:18 <[mathew]> I swear!!!!!!!!!!!! 09:25:19 <[mathew]> PLEASE 09:25:24 <[mathew]> I love Oyasumi 09:25:26 <[mathew]> Cmon 09:25:27 <[mathew]> I'm a fan 09:25:31 -> -Twistey- isn't he hilarious? :D 09:25:38 <@Twistey> he is 09:25:41 <[mathew]> I just said "hell bitch" 09:25:59 <[mathew]> I didn't mean it ._. 09:26:03 <[mathew]> Sorry 09:26:09 <@Twistey> lol 09:26:13 <[mathew]> ^^ 09:26:27 <[mathew]> Don't ban me please 09:26:29 <[mathew]> I won't do it again 09:26:35 <[mathew]> Twistey 09:26:57 <@Twistey> lol 09:27:07 <[mathew]> Say you forgive me not lol! 09:27:29 <[mathew]> Anyway what's your job? 09:27:37 <[mathew]> In Oyasumi? 09:28:02 <@Twistey> im just here for the blackmailing and such 09:28:25 <[mathew]> lol, really? 09:28:44 <[mathew]> !list Twistey 09:28:50 <[mathew]> ._. 09:28:55 <[mathew]> lol 09:28:58 <[mathew]> SOrry 09:29:15 <[mathew]> Wait, I will look at the credits of Black Cat 09:29:26 <[mathew]> And I gotta pee 09:29:27 <[mathew]> brb And then back to more random noob trolling. 09:30:20 <[mathew]> HD-DVD and Blue Ray, how much do they cost? 09:30:47 <[mathew]> Subagashi, Subagashi-yo Black Cat 09:32:26 <[mathew]> You're not on the credits 09:32:40 <@Twistey> :D 09:32:43 <@Twistey> look on ppd 09:32:48 <[mathew]> ??? 09:32:50 <[mathew]> Ohh 09:32:53 <[mathew]> I don't have that anime 09:33:03 <[mathew]> It looks a bit girlish 09:33:33 <[mathew]> I guess you're a... umm..... Timer?? 09:33:49 * Twistey is now known as Behoimi 09:34:14 <+ArchMageZeratuL> no, he's obviously a Healing Type Mahou Shoujo 09:34:48 <[mathew]> Hey, why don't translators appear on the credits? 09:35:05 <[mathew]> What does Mahou mean? 09:35:12 <[mathew]> I know Shoujo is young boy 09:35:20 <@Behoimi> Mahou means magic 09:35:23 <[mathew]> Or is that shounen 09:35:33 <[mathew]> Oh lol 09:35:46 <[mathew]> What's his job 09:35:53 <[mathew]> Why's he an op? 09:35:55 * Behoimi is now known as English 09:36:05 <[mathew]> Maybe he's a translator 09:36:11 * English is now known as Twistey 09:36:20 <[mathew]> He's ignoring me.. 09:36:42 <[mathew]> I feel so sad and I have to go to the l00~~~ 09:36:46 <[mathew]> loo~~ 09:37:16 * [mathew] is now known as [mathew|poo] 09:55:38 <@Twistey> 06»»13 MPClassic 06::13 [a.f.k.] Animal Yokocho - 04 06::13 00:14 / 23:10 06::13 640x480 06::13 23.976 fps 06::13 ~120.54KB/s 06::13 163.63MB 06::13 XviD MPEG-4 codec 06««13 10:18:40 <[mathew|poo]> Animal... Yokocho...? 10:18:44 * [mathew|poo] is now known as [mathew] 10:37:08 <[mathew]> Is H.264 the best codec? 10:39:51 <@Twistey> ... 10:39:56 <@Twistey> at the moment not yet 10:40:02 <@Twistey> its great 10:40:07 <@Twistey> but it can become greater 10:40:17 <+Tsukasa`> yeah, it's still in development 10:40:51 <+ArchMageZeratuL> h.264 in itself is a standard, and has been approved and formalized 10:41:02 !list 10:41:04 <+ArchMageZeratuL> h.264 based codecs, e.g. x264 and Nero Digital still have a lot to improve 10:41:06 <+ArchMageZeratuL> but already outclass XviD 10:41:42 <+Tsukasa`> doesn't quicktime make use of h.264 aswell? 10:41:49 <+Tsukasa`> i think i read something like that once :o 10:41:56 <@Twistey> i hate quicktime 10:41:57 <@Twistey> lol 10:42:06 <+ArchMageZeratuL> Quicktime 7 does, I believe 10:42:13 <+ArchMageZeratuL> their version of h.264 is weak, though 10:43:20 <@Twistey> h.264 releases will kill the noobs 10:43:30 <@Twistey> it took so long for them to finally understand how to use divx or xvid 10:43:38 <+ArchMageZeratuL> they just need to install CCCP :) 10:43:40 <@Twistey> or how to install it ... 10:43:46 <+ArchMageZeratuL> a greater concern is CPU usage 10:43:56 <+ArchMageZeratuL> many people simply have too slow computers 10:44:06 <@Twistey> thats the main problem but i still runned good on my pc 10:44:13 <@Twistey> with azureus on seeding 10:44:52 <+ArchMageZeratuL> well, azureus is a ram hog, not cpu :) 10:44:59 <@Twistey> 12(CPU12) 1-AMD Duron™, 1599MHz, 64KB (50% Load) .:. 12(RAM12) usage: 300/768MB (39.06%) .:. 12(GFX12) NVIDIA GeForce4 Ti 4200 with AGP8X, 12(Display12) 1152x864/32bit/60Hz 10:45:00 <@Twistey> 12(OS12) Windows XP Professional (5.1 - 2600), 12(installed for12) 6w 6d 1h 58m, 12(uptime12) 1d 4h 45m 34s .:. 12(HDDs12) 5.2GB/76.3GB(6.8%) free 10:45:25 <@Twistey> 50% is because im extracting Call of Duty 2 10:45:26 <@Twistey> lol 10:46:29 <@Moose> the only problems I've had so far was with this x264 quake3 fragging movie which was in .mp4 container 10:46:43 <[mathew]> You only have used 5.2 GB :O 10:46:44 <@Moose> the video and sounds froze occationally 10:46:45 <+ArchMageZeratuL> CCCP can play .mp4 just fine, too 10:46:49 <+ArchMageZeratuL> ah 10:46:51 <@Twistey> no idiot 10:46:54 <@Twistey> i still have 5.2 free 10:47:02 <@Twistey> i used 71.1 10:47:02 <+ArchMageZeratuL> you mean performance 10:47:05 <[mathew]> ._. 10:47:12 <[mathew]> SOrry Twistey 10:47:15 <@Moose> yeah, but I think it would have required a better comp than the one I have =/ 10:47:16 <[mathew]> ._. 10:47:27 <@Twistey> what do you have moose? 10:47:37 <+ArchMageZeratuL> I know that some h.264 I have are close to 100% CPU on my 2200+ 10:47:48 <@Moose> AMD 3000+, 1GB ram and radeon 9800pro 10:47:56 <@Twistey> that wont run it 10:47:59 <[mathew]> Waaaaaaaah 10:48:00 <@Twistey> you need a better one 10:48:01 <@Twistey> lol... 10:48:03 <[mathew]> Moose you are so lucky 10:48:06 <@Twistey> Moose you idiot... 10:48:09 <@Twistey> that will easily run it 10:48:19 <[mathew]> oMG OMG OMG 10:48:19 <@Moose> yeah, I thought so too 10:48:20 <[mathew]> MOOSE 10:48:24 <[mathew]> YOU LUCKY BIACH!! 10:48:24 <@Moose> but guess not 10:48:35 <@Twistey> they you dont have everything installed good 10:48:37 <+ArchMageZeratuL> lucky? 10:48:39 <+ArchMageZeratuL> why lucky? 10:48:44 <@Moose> it has nothing to do with being lucky, I worked hard for that money =/ 10:49:00 <[mathew]> I got a shit computer, you are lucky compared to me 10:49:03 <[mathew]> :(( 10:49:04 <+ArchMageZeratuL> I wonder what he calls a X2 4800+, then 10:49:05 <+ArchMageZeratuL> -_- 10:49:14 <@Twistey> Omega Lucky 10:49:15 <@Twistey> lol 10:49:24 <[mathew]> 4800!!!! 10:49:25 <[mathew]> OMG 10:49:29 <[mathew]> God lucky :P 10:49:31 <[mathew]> :D: 10:49:41 <[mathew]> What's X2? 10:49:55 <+ArchMageZeratuL> Dual core 64-bit processor 10:50:01 <[mathew]> Oh 10:50:19 <@Twistey> AMD Athlon64 X2 3800+ 10:50:19 <[mathew]> Man i would love to have that processor 10:50:49 <[mathew]> dual core action :D 10:50:51 <@Moose> but anyways.. I was surprised that the video didn't work as it was supposed to, I think I should have a good enough computer to play any video =/ 10:50:53 <[mathew]> 54 bit! 10:50:55 <[mathew]> 64 10:50:57 <[mathew]> omggggggg 10:50:59 <[mathew]> gimmeeeee 10:51:15 <+ArchMageZeratuL> Moose: I guess it was high definition? 10:51:18 <+ArchMageZeratuL> 1280x720, maybe? 10:51:39 * @Moose MPClassic - Get Quaked 3 by fei and robo-K1ll.mp4 - 00:05 / 19:15 - ~323.93KB/s - 365.38MB 10:51:44 <@Moose> hmm 10:51:57 <[mathew]> you told me that h.264 was high quality and low size but you didn't say it was performance hog!! 10:52:17 <+ArchMageZeratuL> better codecs always need more processing, live with it 10:52:25 <+ArchMageZeratuL> (*always used loosely here) 10:52:26 <@Moose> 720 x 576 10:52:33 * Parts: Poyayan (~poyoman@Rizon-3F25BFFF.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) (Konversation terminated!) 10:52:39 <@Moose> Video: MPEG2 Video 2x2220 (16:9) 10:52:39 <@Moose> Audio: AAC 44100Hz stereo 10:52:55 <+ArchMageZeratuL> hmm 10:53:06 <[mathew]> What does 2x2220 mean 10:53:10 <+ArchMageZeratuL> I'd think that it would be able to play it 10:53:22 <@Moose> yea, me too 10:53:26 <+ArchMageZeratuL> but, who knows... might be HE-AAC 10:53:34 <+ArchMageZeratuL> that requires a lot of processing power to decode, too 10:53:43 <@Moose> nice video btw =) 10:53:53 <@Twistey> brb 10:54:16 <[mathew]> my processor has 2.6ghz 10:52:44 <[mathew]> sis 10:52:52 <[mathew]> and it sucks ._. 10:53:07 <[mathew]> I have 256 ram 10:53:09 <[mathew]> !!! 10:53:28 <[mathew]> 50gb hdd :(( 10:53:33 <[mathew]> almsot full 10:53:44 <[mathew]> Where is the loving?!?!?!! 10:53:46 <[mathew]> !!!!! :(( 10:54:18 <@Twistey> ... 10:54:57 <[mathew]> Oh yeh and my internet speed is currently 32kbits/s :((((( 10:55:09 <[mathew]> no wait 10:55:12 <[mathew]> 64kb/s :( 10:55:14 <@Twistey> shit happends 10:55:17 <@Twistey> happens* 10:55:24 <[mathew]> o well 10:55:27 <[mathew]> when I get a job 10:55:31 <[mathew]> I will upgrade ^^ 10:55:53 <+ArchMageZeratuL> wait 10:55:59 <+ArchMageZeratuL> you're telling me that you're old enough to get a job? 10:55:59 <[mathew]> Is it illegal to download fansubs? 10:56:06 <+ArchMageZeratuL> yes, it is 10:56:10 <+ArchMageZeratuL> not that anyone cares 10:56:13 <+ArchMageZeratuL> but, technically, it is 10:56:14 <[mathew]> lol 10:56:33 <[mathew]> No 10:56:36 <[mathew]> Not old enough yet 10:56:50 <[mathew]> I'm tired This is where the true fun started. He made fun of the other person not being able to spell his nick, so I asked about his, since Matthew is usually spelled with two "t"s. 10:56:55 * Quits: Ineedaname (~DryIce@Rizon-338ABADB.nb.aliant.net) (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 10:57:32 * @Moose DC++ Stats Down: 8,84 MiB/s (96,50 MiB)-Up: 0 B/s (2,88 MiB)-Free Slots: 4/4-Total DL/UL: 567.24GB/1.62TB#gtsdll @ irc.rizon.net 10:57:46 <[mathew]> That guy can't spell anime.. 10:57:46 <[mathew]> "Ineedaname" 10:57:46 <[mathew]> lol ._x 10:57:53 <@Moose> guess I'm lucky with my connection too 10:58:09 <+ArchMageZeratuL> is "mathew" your name? He didn't take the question the right way. From that, I started having fun. 10:58:35 <[mathew]> Who are you.. 10:58:57 <+ArchMageZeratuL> I'm from the FBI, you didn't know? 10:59:03 <[mathew]> ._. 10:59:07 <[mathew]> Not funny 10:59:10 <+ArchMageZeratuL> ... 10:59:12 <+ArchMageZeratuL> not meant to be 10:59:17 <[mathew]> So you're serious? 10:59:25 <+Tsukasa`> he is 10:59:28 <+ArchMageZeratuL> I could go to jail for joking about something like that 10:59:47 <[mathew]> Why does someone from the FBI call themself ArchMageZeratuL 10:59:51 <[mathew]> ._. 10:59:59 <+ArchMageZeratuL> why not? 11:00:01 <+Tsukasa`> codenames, like in spy movies 11:00:11 <[mathew]> Bull 11:00:16 <[mathew]> You are tricking me 11:00:25 <+ArchMageZeratuL> I could be, but you can never really know for sure 11:00:43 <[mathew]> Why would an FBI come here? 11:01:00 <+ArchMageZeratuL> Isn't it obvious? 11:01:20 <[mathew]> Not really ._> 11:01:39 <+ArchMageZeratuL> Give it some thought and it will all make sense 11:02:01 <[mathew]> Cmon serious 11:02:08 <[mathew]> STop it or I'll ignore you man 11:02:16 <[mathew]> You're scaring me >>>> 11:02:21 <[mathew]> STOP It 11:02:24 <[mathew]> Please I'm scare 11:02:26 <[mathew]> scared 11:02:28 <[mathew]> Cmon 11:02:34 <@Moose> You can ignore the FBI but they wont ignore you. 11:02:34 <[mathew]> i did nothing 11:02:38 <[mathew]> omg 11:02:38 <[mathew]> OMG 11:02:39 <[mathew]> OMG 11:02:42 <[mathew]> SOrryyyy 11:02:45 <[mathew]> PLEAs 11:02:47 <[mathew]> eEAPELASEEEEEEEEE 11:02:49 <[mathew]> I didn't do anything!!!!!! 11:02:54 <[mathew]> NOTHING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 11:02:57 <[mathew]> I swear!!!! 11:02:58 <+ArchMageZeratuL> Hey, calm down 11:03:01 <+ArchMageZeratuL> I'm only investigating. 11:03:06 <+ArchMageZeratuL> I'm not arresting anyone yet 11:03:07 <[mathew]> I don't download anime 11:03:13 <[mathew]> I am good 11:03:22 <[mathew]> I just like to talk in this channel 11:03:27 <[mathew]> I don't download their subs 11:03:32 <[mathew]> plz 11:03:37 <[mathew]> bye 11:03:38 <[mathew]> g2g 11:03:39 <@Twistey> Initiating Fserv Autovoice. 11:03:39 <@Twistey> !list 11:03:39 <+ArchMageZeratuL> Why are you acting so suspicious? 11:03:43 <[mathew]> I'm not 11:04:05 <[mathew]> It's because I'm tired 11:04:13 <[mathew]> WHY IS THE FBI HERE 11:04:16 <[mathew]> GET OUT 11:04:19 <[mathew]> .........................__-------------- 11:04:21 <[mathew]> -------------------- 11:04:35 <[mathew]> Twistey can you get rid of the FBI??????/ 11:04:36 <@Twistey> omg... 11:04:40 * Twistey sets mode: +v Mars 11:04:44 <@Twistey> no 11:04:50 <@Twistey> since im from CIA.... 11:04:52 <[mathew]> Why not? 11:04:52 <[mathew]> OMG 11:04:53 <@Twistey> ._. 11:05:00 <[mathew]> What is that 11:05:12 <@Moose> you can recognize all the FBI agents from the + in front of their nicks 11:05:22 <+Tsukasa`> except me, I'm from ACROSS 11:05:32 EXCEL??? 11:05:33 <[mathew]> Oh few now I know you are all kidding 11:05:39 <+ArchMageZeratuL> Twistey, I think that we have a WAO-1566 here. 11:05:39 Why are you on "Tsukasa" nick?? 11:05:54 <[mathew]> WAO-1566???? 11:05:55 I'm ilpalazzo-sama! 11:05:56 <[mathew]> What's taht??????? 11:06:01 <@Twistey> We do we need to take him with us for questioning 11:06:07 <[mathew]> WAHT?!!!!! 11:06:09 <+Tsukasa`> dwawd33few: Because Lord Ilpalazzo ordered me to infiltrate the fansub channels of the masses 11:06:11 <[mathew]> WHATTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 11:06:16 <[mathew]> What the fuck 11:06:19 <[mathew]> I didn't do anything 11:06:23 I ordered you? 11:06:25 <[mathew]> What is WAO-1566 11:06:29 <[mathew]> WHAT IS THAT 11:06:38 * dwawd33few is now known as Ilpalazzo-sama 11:06:46 <+Tsukasa`> Oh hail Ilaplazzo! I didn't recognize you at first glance! 11:07:03 see that rope, excel? ^^ 11:07:16 <+Tsukasa`> Is there an alligator again? It's almost christmas ._. 11:07:23 <+Tsukasa`> *shudders* At this point, I did some /whois magic. [mathew] is ~TheFlying@Rizon-1D3D8B09.nsw.bigpond.net.au * Aaron Seeto [mathew] on #Oyasumi-Subs [mathew] using Rizon Where are You? [mathew] has identified for this nick [mathew] End of /WHOIS list. 11:07:23 <+ArchMageZeratuL> hmm 11:07:31 <+ArchMageZeratuL> What's the jurisdiction for such cases in Australia? 11:07:40 <[mathew]> OMG 11:07:45 <@Twistey> lifetime 11:07:46 <[mathew]> HOW DO YOU KNOW IM INA USTALIa 11:07:47 <[mathew]> OMG 11:07:48 <[mathew]> OMAG!!!!!!!!! 11:07:49 <[mathew]> OMFG!!!!!!! 11:07:50 <[mathew]> PELAes 11:07:53 <[mathew]> I"M SORRY 11:07:55 <[mathew]> I'm sosry 11:07:59 <[mathew]> i will delete my amnime 11:08:00 <[mathew]> plz 11:08:10 <[mathew]> i will die if my parents know 11:08:12 <[mathew]> plz 11:08:13 <[mathew]> please 11:08:15 <[mathew]> I'm sorry 11:08:19 <+ArchMageZeratuL> well, let's just check if Seeto's criminal record is clean, for now 11:08:20 <[mathew]> I won't ever gdoi it again 11:08:21 <[mathew]> pzl 11:08:27 <[mathew]> OMG 11:08:28 <[mathew]> 1OMGggggggggg 11:08:29 <[mathew]> OMGGGGGGGGGGGGGG 11:08:31 <[mathew]> OMSss 11:08:32 <[mathew]> OMGA 11:08:33 <[mathew]> OMGGGGGGGGGggg 11:08:35 <[mathew]> PLz 11:08:40 <[mathew]> I" AM SOOOOOO SORY!!!!!! 11:08:45 <[mathew]> PLEASe 11:08:49 <[mathew]> I swear to GOD I WONT 11:08:51 <[mathew]> EVER 11:08:52 <@Twistey> it's to late now 11:08:53 <[mathew]> DO I TAGAIN 11:08:54 <[mathew]> OMG 11:08:55 <[mathew]> OMG 11:08:57 <[mathew]> PLaes 11:09:06 who is the encoder of PPD? 11:09:12 <[mathew]> PLase :(((((( 11:09:17 <[mathew]> You making me cry 11:09:18 <@Twistey> So what were you going to do when you burned your anime on dvd? 11:09:20 <@Twistey> sell it ? 11:09:27 <@Twistey> thats a crime you know 11:09:29 <[mathew]> NO 11:09:30 <[mathew]> NO!!!!! 11:09:34 <[mathew]> I was just wondering how 11:09:37 <[mathew]> THATS ALL 11:09:43 Now everyone, please repeat 11:09:45 <[mathew]> IU SWEAR TO GOD 11:09:48 <[mathew]> IS WEAR 11:09:50 <[mathew]> I SWAEr 11:09:52 <[mathew]> PLEAse 11:09:53 "Hail Ilpalazzo-sama!" 11:09:56 <[mathew]> Don't put me in jail 11:10:03 <+Tsukasa`> Hail Ilpalazzo-sama! 11:10:09 <+ArchMageZeratuL> hey, [mathew], let's make a deal 11:10:15 <+ArchMageZeratuL> you stop flooding the channel with whinning 11:10:19 <+ArchMageZeratuL> and we pretend that this never happened 11:10:20 <+ArchMageZeratuL> ok? 11:10:23 <[mathew]> ok 11:10:26 <[mathew]> promise me 11:10:30 * Tsukasa` is now known as Excel[disguised] 11:10:32 <+ArchMageZeratuL> My word is all you need. 11:10:40 now now, where is hyatt? 11:10:51 let me guess, she is...maybe...dead? 11:10:54 again? 11:11:00 <+Excel[disguised]> yes 11:11:04 <+Excel[disguised]> some creatures buried her 11:11:12 gee, third time today 11:11:19 <@Twistey> We will follow you closely [mathew] so dont make any weird moves :) 11:11:27 <[mathew]> ok 11:11:32 <[mathew]> I promsie 11:11:40 <[mathew]> CAn you see me now?? 11:11:56 <@Twistey> we can see everything 11:12:18 <[mathew]> cmon 11:12:20 <[mathew]> you can't do that 11:12:26 <[mathew]> where is the privacy 11:12:28 <@Twistey> brb let me shut down my cracked call of duty 2 of DEViACE 11:12:40 <[mathew]> Omg 11:12:43 <[mathew]> You are CIA 11:12:47 <[mathew]> And you are cracking 11:12:47 <[mathew]> games 11:12:49 <[mathew]> illegally 11:12:51 <[mathew]> i'm tel 11:12:53 <[mathew]> telling 11:13:00 we *really* need PPD10 11:13:00 <@Moose> it's his job 11:13:06 we are getting *really* bored, lol 11:13:11 <@Moose> he tracks down the guys who do those cracks 11:13:28 <[mathew]> me too 11:13:31 <[mathew]> i do that for anim 11:13:32 <[mathew]> anime 11:13:34 <[mathew]> we are the same 11:13:39 <@Twistey> Mathew 11:13:42 <@Moose> sure you do 11:13:42 <@Twistey> how old are you? 11:13:43 <[mathew]> Yes? 11:13:50 <[mathew]> I'm not telling 11:14:09 <@Twistey> its a crime not to tell something to people with authority 11:14:23 <[mathew]> no 11:14:29 <[mathew]> i dont have to talk you 11:14:34 <[mathew]> i saw it in csi 11:14:37 <@Twistey> respect my authority and tell me now 11:14:38 <[mathew]> you are lying 11:14:45 <[mathew]> omg 11:14:48 <[mathew]> leave me alone! 11:14:52 <[mathew]> you cant do that 11:14:58 <@Twistey> i can 11:14:59 <+ArchMageZeratuL> does that law apply to New South Wales? 11:15:04 <[mathew]> OMFG 11:15:05 <[mathew]> Please 11:15:08 <[mathew]> ArchMage 11:15:10 <[mathew]> Zeratul 11:15:12 <[mathew]> I'm sorry 11:15:15 <+ArchMageZeratuL> look 11:15:17 <+ArchMageZeratuL> I already told you 11:15:17 <[mathew]> Don't come here 11:15:19 <+ArchMageZeratuL> you stop whinning 11:15:22 <+ArchMageZeratuL> and we're good 11:15:22 <[mathew]> Ok 11:15:23 <[mathew]> Ok 11:15:24 <[mathew]> ok 11:15:26 <[mathew]> promise 11:15:30 <+ArchMageZeratuL> you're whinning. 11:15:35 <[mathew]> - 11:15:56 <@Twistey> Mathew 11:16:03 <@Twistey> do you really believe we are from CIA and FBI? 11:16:33 <[mathew]> what 11:16:46 <[mathew]> yes 11:16:55 <[mathew]> why 11:17:17 * ZlpZq is now known as Zaq 11:17:37 <[mathew]> how the fuck did you know my name and where i live 11:18:01 <@Moose> [mathew] is ~TheFlying@Rizon-1D3D8B09.nsw.bigpond.net.au * Aaron Seeto 11:18:19 <[mathew]> ???????????????? 11:18:24 <[mathew]> ???????????????? 11:18:25 <[mathew]> ?????????? 11:18:26 <[mathew]> ?????????????????? 11:18:29 <+Excel[disguised]> type /whois [mathew] 11:18:32 <+Excel[disguised]> and see for yourself 11:18:32 <+Excel[disguised]> :p 11:18:38 * Excel[disguised] is now known as Tsukasa` 11:18:40 <[mathew]> nothing happened 11:19:03 <+ArchMageZeratuL> look on status window 11:19:05 * +Tsukasa` points to the status window 11:19:14 <+ArchMageZeratuL> the window that says "Rizon [mathew]" etc 11:19:29 <[mathew]> o 11:19:49 <[mathew]> cool 11:20:17 <[mathew]> dam you liars 11:20:23 <[mathew]> @.@@@@@@@!!!!1111 11:20:28 <[mathew]> ._@!!!!!!!! 11:20:54 <[mathew]> I am never talking to you again! 11:21:00 <@Moose> good